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paul ryan has basically grown up inside the capitol. >> well, i think there are real advantages for ryan, too. he comes across as sincere and likable like the guy who lives next door to you and i think that's a huge advantage to do that. second of all, the vice president is going to have defend everything about their administration -- the mediocrity of the economy, the failure in foreign policy and so forth. and let's face it, joe biden has had his share of being the punch line on the talk shows and the comedy shows quite a bit, and there's always that opportunity with joe biden we're going to see some major gaffe again. >> all right, so, let's see if the kids in college for thursday night start a drinking game for how many times they hear big bird mentioned between the vice president ticket-holders. jonathan capehart, karen finney and john brebender, thank you for joining me. >>> joining me in studio, ohio state senator nina turner. great to have you here. i know you've been listening to the conversation about ohio, so let's dig in. their voter registration deadline is today. both candi
paul ryan has basically grown up inside the capitol. >> well, i think there are real advantages for ryan, too. he comes across as sincere and likable like the guy who lives next door to you and i think that's a huge advantage to do that. second of all, the vice president is going to have defend everything about their administration -- the mediocrity of the economy, the failure in foreign policy and so forth. and let's face it, joe biden has had his share of being the punch line on the...
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>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under three. >> holy smoke. >> i stand by what i said, whatever it was. >>> we are pumped up, fired up, and jacked up with just hours until tonight's first and only face-off between vice president joseph biden and vice presidential nominee paul ryan. and what was once regarded as a popcorn side show has taken on far greater significance in the wake of the president's less than scintillating performance last week. democrats are anxious, republicans are hungry for a surge, and as ryan and biden take the stage tonight, they have a chance to influence this election at a volatile moment. and the president himself knows he's got to push harder against his ever-shiftin
>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under...
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ryan? i would challenge him on these very fundamental positions he's taking. >> maybe you should xerox that and slip it to one of biden's guys. >> both sides can see it. both sides can see it. >> in the meantime, the polls, we had a little graphic up that showed pole ryization. because so many people have made up their minds, do you bank on this debate tonight being any kind of a change in the game? >> i doubt it's going to be a change. we've seen very few vice presidential debates where they've mattered. democrats want a little bit of momentum. these polls have shown that last week's debate didn't matter all that much but going into this final stretch with 26 days left they actually want something to believe in their side, to take the fight to the republicans. i think that's what they're going to be looking for. the republicans want to keep their momentum. >> i think the draw goes to the other side, the republicans. >> i do too. >> without a win. >> has to be decisive. >> the team loses. >
ryan? i would challenge him on these very fundamental positions he's taking. >> maybe you should xerox that and slip it to one of biden's guys. >> both sides can see it. both sides can see it. >> in the meantime, the polls, we had a little graphic up that showed pole ryization. because so many people have made up their minds, do you bank on this debate tonight being any kind of a change in the game? >> i doubt it's going to be a change. we've seen very few vice...
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the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of facts. but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debates. cheney and edwards. cheney was able to almost smack down edwards. benson and quayle, famous. joe biden, everybody talks about the gaffes on the trail, but he won most of the democratic primary debates in 2008. >> but this is a high wire act with
the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of...
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because of paul ryan and paul ryan budget. >> it important for the future of paul ryan? he can't lay an egg, lose to biden. >> sure. >> the punching bag of the right. if you lose to joe biden what good are you? >> exactly. >> low pressure on him. win or lose, paul ryan at this point has a bright future in the republican party. i think it's important for another reason. that is, we'll have a foreign policy speech today by mitt romney and that issue's going to come up, the first major confrontation after that speech and an area we see some foreign policy tangling for the first time. >> joe biden, what's the temperature of the porridge? >> we'll go with just right. >> my point is, what do you think that -- what's the advice he's getting? if you're in that room, when's the advice? how much more aggressive than the president? >> more aggressive than the president but i mean he has a lot of opportunities with the ryan budget. the challenge for the president is he didn't take, didn't hold mitt romney to his positions. he can hold paul ryan to his positions, vice president can h
because of paul ryan and paul ryan budget. >> it important for the future of paul ryan? he can't lay an egg, lose to biden. >> sure. >> the punching bag of the right. if you lose to joe biden what good are you? >> exactly. >> low pressure on him. win or lose, paul ryan at this point has a bright future in the republican party. i think it's important for another reason. that is, we'll have a foreign policy speech today by mitt romney and that issue's going to come...
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ryan has to modulate. we'd like to be sharper, smarter, more on guard, but we're not. >> the neocons are the ones who have been prepping on that question. i think he had to strike that broad line there simply because in the senate and in the congress, there are a whole lot of members who are war weary. >> you're a republican. do you think this country is war weary after three wars? >> absolutely. i called for it when i was chairman and got creamed for questioning why we were engaging yet again in afghanistan. >> with an islamic country. >> here we go again. i think paul ryan had to walk that tight rope a little bit. quite frankly, it was difficult. it was obvious it was difficult, particularly on the question of iran and answering specifically with respect to the sanctions of working. are they working? they're having an impact. not being able to acknowledge that says a lot. >> i think he did a very good job on the whole foreign policy section. number one, he's a foreign policy expert. he's a chairman of fo
ryan has to modulate. we'd like to be sharper, smarter, more on guard, but we're not. >> the neocons are the ones who have been prepping on that question. i think he had to strike that broad line there simply because in the senate and in the congress, there are a whole lot of members who are war weary. >> you're a republican. do you think this country is war weary after three wars? >> absolutely. i called for it when i was chairman and got creamed for questioning why we were...
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>>> on the broadcast tonight, the showdown, biden and ryan, how did it go on taxes, medicare and more? their only face-to-face meeting is in the books now, the post debate is well under way. >>> and dire warning about the u.s. power grid. it could shut down banking and even the flow of water. now there is a new warning about the chance of a massive attack in cyberspace. >>> and behind the scenes, a little known chapter of the american crisis, now shown on the screen and tonight, ben affleck, on why he was drawn to this story. >>> and from the heart, a mother's promise that got millions of moms talking about how to stay in the picture for their kids. >>> good evening, the vice president debate is now history, and while all eyes are on next tuesday's presidential debate and the town hall format, we have learned the eyes of over 50 million americans were on last night's event, a crisply moderated event, rowdy at times, tense at times, between the two men who represented the largest age gap of any debate. paul ryan and joe biden were not at the top of the ticket, but the reviews were inst
>>> on the broadcast tonight, the showdown, biden and ryan, how did it go on taxes, medicare and more? their only face-to-face meeting is in the books now, the post debate is well under way. >>> and dire warning about the u.s. power grid. it could shut down banking and even the flow of water. now there is a new warning about the chance of a massive attack in cyberspace. >>> and behind the scenes, a little known chapter of the american crisis, now shown on the screen...
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and that is paul ryan's challenge, he is youthful, compared to joe biden. and he was not helped yesterday. mitt romney says he was not sure if paul ryan had had a debate, maybe back in high school. you don't want to bring up the phrase "high school" when you want to look presidential? >> all right, chuck todd, who will be part of our team during the live coverage of the debate tomorrow, 9 eastern time, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> today, in washington, a lot of republicans in congress had a lot of questions about the obama mission, about the night in benghazi, when a sudden and ferocious attack took the lives of our u.s. ambassador, and at the american consulate there, along with three other americans. our report tonight from our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: sparking the confrontation, the two security officers from the consulate who said the requests were either turned down or ignored. >> we were fighting a losing battle. we couldn't even keep what we had. we were not allowed to keep what we had
and that is paul ryan's challenge, he is youthful, compared to joe biden. and he was not helped yesterday. mitt romney says he was not sure if paul ryan had had a debate, maybe back in high school. you don't want to bring up the phrase "high school" when you want to look presidential? >> all right, chuck todd, who will be part of our team during the live coverage of the debate tomorrow, 9 eastern time, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> today, in...
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paul ryan has never been on this big a stage before. he has reviewed the sarah palin debate, watched joe biden's speeches to try to get a sense of joe biden. they will be seated. but i can tell you the republicans are a bit nervous about this, because joe biden is very good in settings like this, because -- being a former u.s. senator. >>> now, andrea, what was the chief takeaway from the speech that romney gave today. i know he did emphasize for a while, libya, of course that has been an ongoing situation for the united states. >> reporter: in fact, it was all benghazi, benghazi, benghazi and that is really the reason, the romney campaign attacking the white house on foreign policy, they believe that the white house is lacking in the foreign policies. they worry that the al-qaeda affiliates were active in the militias. darryl issa is holding hearings this wednesday, focusing in part on this e-mail from the embassy in tripoli, last february, asking to leave a special team in libya for another four months. the commander of that team will
paul ryan has never been on this big a stage before. he has reviewed the sarah palin debate, watched joe biden's speeches to try to get a sense of joe biden. they will be seated. but i can tell you the republicans are a bit nervous about this, because joe biden is very good in settings like this, because -- being a former u.s. senator. >>> now, andrea, what was the chief takeaway from the speech that romney gave today. i know he did emphasize for a while, libya, of course that has been...
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a huge stage for paul ryan. we're going to be looking for how joe biden addresses the issue of seniors and medicare, we're going to be look at how paul ryan carries those attacks and how he's able defend the romney/ryan ticket as opposed to his own positions and his own statements. romney's been modulating a little bit or saying some things that were somewhat garbled on abortion this week. i think you're going to hear a lot about that tonight. >> medicare, abortion, i think benghazi. >> i i agree. >> joe biden, former chairman of the foreign relation committee and this very strong attack from the republican on leading the committee that had a four-hour hearing pillaring the state department yesterday. >> an area where anticipation had been joe biden would be able to press a grav as it. benghazi complicated that and you'll see paul ryan hit that. >> "time" magazine, your magazine out, and preprized k k pictures they took for the runner-up when paul ryan was runner-up for man of the year. do we need more proof tha
a huge stage for paul ryan. we're going to be looking for how joe biden addresses the issue of seniors and medicare, we're going to be look at how paul ryan carries those attacks and how he's able defend the romney/ryan ticket as opposed to his own positions and his own statements. romney's been modulating a little bit or saying some things that were somewhat garbled on abortion this week. i think you're going to hear a lot about that tonight. >> medicare, abortion, i think benghazi....
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we're as close as it is. >> ryan, this is a shift actually in the romney/ryan campaign. they've started to use the word capability for the threshold. >> very important. >> that's a very ambiguous standard. they're not saying have nuclear weapons, they're saying the capability. >> everyone should be clear. this is one of the things where there is a policy difference that's being obscured by the rhetoric. the debate largely between the obama administration and netanyahu's folks as far as i can understand as i follow this is the question is the red line a weapon or is the red line a capability. the capability is before actually having a weapon and much more haze zilly defined? is that more or less -- >> that's my understanding. there's a broader sense of whether would an obama administration support israel as opposed to a romney administration? that is a real debate and a real question people are asking. i think if there is one to attack, obama would go along with it in the end. >> the intractability of syria was another issue that was on the table. i think the reason that
we're as close as it is. >> ryan, this is a shift actually in the romney/ryan campaign. they've started to use the word capability for the threshold. >> very important. >> that's a very ambiguous standard. they're not saying have nuclear weapons, they're saying the capability. >> everyone should be clear. this is one of the things where there is a policy difference that's being obscured by the rhetoric. the debate largely between the obama administration and netanyahu's...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actuall
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme...
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whether joe biden and ryan uses first names, remains to be scene. the moderator will introduce him as congressman, although he is far less experienced than joe biden, ryan's advisers don't seem worried. >> he can talk about all his years in washington, all the multiple times he has run for president, the tough decisions he has made. they have a record that is bad for the country, he will have to defend it. >> what he can't run from is the president's record. >> reporter: aides say mr. ryan spent the afternoon relaxing with family, working in time for last minute studying. he even hit the gym, just as an old-time picture hits the stands, and a pep talk from his seven-year-old son, sam. now we're on the college campus, of course, which means certain traditions need to be upheld. a couple of days ago, a student brought the picture of fred vincent into the debate hall. he has not missed a home football game here since he passed away. now finally, president obama will watch tonight's debate from air force one after a day of campaigning. governor romney w
whether joe biden and ryan uses first names, remains to be scene. the moderator will introduce him as congressman, although he is far less experienced than joe biden, ryan's advisers don't seem worried. >> he can talk about all his years in washington, all the multiple times he has run for president, the tough decisions he has made. they have a record that is bad for the country, he will have to defend it. >> what he can't run from is the president's record. >> reporter: aides...
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congressman ryan comes into this debate, riding the republican wave of momentum , paul ryan the other table. the forward progress is what vp biden hopes to s biden hopes to stop in its track. before taking off today, vice president joe biden was in a boxing mood, hinting he wouldn't be the one on the ropes tonight. congressman paul ryan got the rock star treatment tonight, walking the rope line, signing autographs, and posing for pictures. it is the second stage for joe biden. but many are questioning just which joe biden will show up. the emotional guy next door type. >> i don't know what it is like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it. >> reporter: or the feisty guy. >> i mean, this guy just is not bright guy. he was not at he was not at his best last week against mitt romney in denver, the president admitted. there was pressure to score, the maryland congressman played the part of ryan in six mock debates, detailed down to a set. acting like the one tonight. this is not good camp for nothing ou go through a lot of >> you go through a lot of mock debates, the vice pre
congressman ryan comes into this debate, riding the republican wave of momentum , paul ryan the other table. the forward progress is what vp biden hopes to s biden hopes to stop in its track. before taking off today, vice president joe biden was in a boxing mood, hinting he wouldn't be the one on the ropes tonight. congressman paul ryan got the rock star treatment tonight, walking the rope line, signing autographs, and posing for pictures. it is the second stage for joe biden. but many are...
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which is biden on and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign after the first debate. looking at some of the enthusiasm. later my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. more to come with our special panel. nel right after this. >>> "meet the press" [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to a
which is biden on and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign after the first debate. looking at some of the enthusiasm. later my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. more to come with our special panel. nel right after this. >>> "meet the press" [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and...
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>> i thought that was a great answer from paul ryan. i thought it was deeply felt, it was sincere and i think it always pay for pro-life politicians to go right to the moral beliefs because i think most people will give someone a lot of leeway on that, and if you actlly look at the breakdown of polls in terms of gender there is not a big gender gap in terms of who is pro-life and who is pro-choice. the gender gap is driven more by different attitudes women have actually on size of government, issues and government policy generally, and one thing i think was interesting in this -- after the presidential debate, you saw on some polls the gender gap closeup when romney didn't talk about women at all and when they obsessed over it in the convention to me that was a sign that women like all other voters are really judging on the most important and central issue in this campaign, and that is the economy, when romney was more credible on that and gained with everyone including women. >> rose: chuck todd, will fact checkers tomorrow morning loo
>> i thought that was a great answer from paul ryan. i thought it was deeply felt, it was sincere and i think it always pay for pro-life politicians to go right to the moral beliefs because i think most people will give someone a lot of leeway on that, and if you actlly look at the breakdown of polls in terms of gender there is not a big gender gap in terms of who is pro-life and who is pro-choice. the gender gap is driven more by different attitudes women have actually on size of...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate and you talk about those things and i can argue persuasively as i'm capable of arg
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those...